BD: Hello. Is
BD: It is?
BD: Oh, hi,
its Brian Deer from The Sunday
BD: Hi, there.
do you want?
BD: Em, well, I
believe you are interested in autism.
BD: And the MMR
pause] Why do you
youre the Carol Stott at
Cambridge University, with the Autism
pause, coughs, very quiet]
loud and sarcastic]
BD: Oh, I just
wanted to talk to you about that
okay, what do you want?
youve apparently been sending
me malicious emails.
Good heavens. I wonder how
Im just asking. I wonder how
dont know. I really dont
know. Is there anything else that you
BD: Well, I
dont know. I just wonder if you
have any thoughts about how that
could have happened?
I dont really know. Im
you malicious [emphasised]
emails, have I? What do you
mean malicious, Mr Deer?
BD: Well, I
dont know. Ive just had
BD: Well, what
Ill do then, I think probably
the best thing for me to do is to
call Simon Baron-Cohen [head
of the Cambridge Autism Research
Centre] and speak to
him about it.
you wish to. Yes.
BD: I should say
I have actually recorded this
conversation, so -
you should actually say that at the
beginning of the conversation. Are
you not aware of that?
BD: Well, there
is no requirement for me to do that.
there not? Is that right? Okay.
BD: I think
Professor Baron-Cohen will assess the
situation quite clearly from this
BD: Now I should
say to you that if you do send any
more, it will become a rather serious
BD: I mean,
Im surprised that you hold an
academic position to tell you the
BD: ... from the
way you are speaking to me.
Why? Why does that surprise you?
BD: Well, to send
malicious emails in the early hours
of the morning and then really to
respond in the way that you have in
this conversation is really rather
its very surprising to me.
well, I dont really care about
what your response is.
BD: But I would
have thought that you were involved
in the care of children, and involved
in a very serious subject, which is
the subject of autism.
BD: And -
I dont do is take kindly to
people like yourself, who are
entirely malicious about the whole
thing. Okay? And quite honestly you
can do whatever you want to do. [pause]
And it really would not faze me at
BD: Well, I would
just have to hope you have acedemic
tenure, because this is really a
rather serious matter.
do you think that is?
BD: Excuse me?
do you think that is. I havent
actually sent you any emails. You
know I really dont know what
you are talking about.
BD: I think
Professor Baron-Cohen will be able to
evaluate this conversation, and
establish whats been going on.
Okay, well try him.
BD: Okay, well,
Ill do that. I have to say
Im very surprised, and I would
ask you to stop sending these emails.
havent sent any emails.
BD: Well, okay,
well youd better tell that to
your university when they raise this
matter with you. Okay, well, I just
ask you to stop sending them, em, and
well take it from there. Thank
you very much, anyway. Bye bye.
REPLY TO CAROL
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004
From: Brian Deer
Subject: To Dr Carol Stott, re your
Dear Dr Stott,
I hope that I have given
you sufficient time to sober up,
recover from whatever substances you
may have ingested, or in any other
way come to your senses, following
the malicious, abusive and obscene
string of emails you have sent me. I
have passed these to the University
of Cambridge's Autism Research
Centre, which assures me that the
matter has been referred to the
university's human resources
department for disciplinary inquiry.
I have taken the trouble
to inspect the website of your
business, "The Cambridge
Psychometrics and Autism
Practice", and from this deduce
that you have been on the payroll of
the failed MMR litigation. Perhaps
you have become disordered following
your realization that you will no
longer be able to charge fees to that
litigation, and you somehow hold me
responsible for your loss.
However, in the light of
your conduct towards me - a person
you have never met, or had any prior
dealings with - I am concerned that
you apparently offer professional
services to vulnerable children and
their families. Therefore, unless you
can supply me with a complete apology
and explanation for your behaviour, I
propose to report this matter to the
British Psychological Society, which
may have a view regarding your
fitness to practice.
I urge you to discuss
this matter with your friends or
colleagues - perhaps with your
business partner, Dr Fiona Scott -
and let me have your reply within 24