BRIAN DEER:
At that press conference, one of
the authors, Dr Andrew Wakefield,
went a step further and advocated
breaking up the MMR into its
separate components, so that the
measles, mumps and rubella
vaccines were given individually
to children, separated by
intervals of a year. Can
you think of anything that
youve seen that could
substantiate such a proposal?
DR MARY RAMSAY:
Not at all. I mean, even
the work that Dr Wakefields
done himself, and a substantial
body of his preliminary work was
looking at measles vaccine in
relation to bowel disease, not
MMR vaccine - measles as a single
vaccine.
BRIAN DEER:
So he was saying it was the
measles component that...
DR MARY RAMSAY:
Caused bowel disease.
BRIAN DEER:
Caused the bowel disease.
DR MARY RAMSAY:
I have no idea where he got the
idea that by combining the
vaccine this could be
contributing to the problem, to a
problem. And I think
its been a very unfortunate
thing because its something
thats confused parents even
more. And its not
necessarily safe to separate
vaccines by a prolonged period of
time, because you leave children
unprotected for that much longer.
BRIAN DEER:
Now you follow the literature
very carefully. Have you
seen other papers being published
by medical groups around the
world that say, well, perhaps
these vaccines should be given
separately?
DR MARY RAMSAY:
Not at all. I mean,
Im not aware of any other
country where people are asking
for separate vaccines, the way,
you know, the way here. All
the scientific and medical
fraternity believes that giving
the vaccines together is a better
way to ensure an effective
vaccination programme. And
the only countries that
dont use MMR are because
they cant afford to use it
and are probably only offering
protection against measles.
BRIAN DEER:
Are you aware of credible
scientists or doctors publishing
research pointing to a risk in
combining these vaccines?
DR MARY RAMSAY:
No. Not at all. Im not
aware of anything that shows any
scientific evidence that there
was a problem by combining the
vaccines together.
BRIAN DEER:
So from your point of view, this
research, and this proposal from
the Royal Free group, and Dr
Wakefield in particular, that the
vaccine should be broken up, just
came out of the blue?
DR MARY RAMSAY:
Absolutely.